Aunty Loretta Parsley – Great-granddaughter of Jimmy Governor and the Governor Family Historian 

Aunty Loretta Ethel Parsley is a Walbunja Yuin Elder and custodian of country. She is a direct descendant of Jimmy and Ethel Governor and the Governor family historian. 

Loretta Parsley is a prolific artist and storyteller. She is the creator of the work “Blood On His Hands, Cleansed By Saltwater “,  which is referenced in The Last Outlaws podcast animation. 

Loretta is a knowledge holder of Aboriginal family history, a school teacher and director of her privately owned company Doolagarl Dreaming.

Loretta lives with her husband Trevor on Walbunja Yuin country.


Leroy Parsons – Governor descendant, Narrator and Co-Writer

Leroy Parsons is an actor across film, stage and television. He has appeared in The Circuit (2007), Something Fishy (2010) and in 2011, played his great-great-grandfather Jimmy Governor in Clare Britton’s theatre production Posts in the Paddock.

Leroy also starred in the short film Man Real (2015), and played Australia’s first Aboriginal President in JUTE Theatre Company’s performance of Proppa Solid (2016).

In 2020, Leroy starred in Jane Harrison’s work, The Visitors which was presented by Sydney Festival, Moogahlin Performing Arts and Carriageworks.

He is the proud great-great-grandson of Jimmy Governor. The role of Narrator in The Last Outlaws series was voiced and co-written by Leroy Parsons.


Katherine Biber – Law Professor and Chief Investigator

Katherine is a legal scholar, criminologist and historian who joined the UTS Law Faculty in 2008. She researches criminal evidence, documentation and visual culture.

Katherine is the author of In Crime’s Archive: The Cultural Afterlife of Evidence (Routledge, 2018) and Captive Images: Race, Crime, Photography (Routledge, 2007). She is co-editor of Evidence and the Archive: Ethics, Aesthetics and Emotion (Routledge, 2017), The Lindy Chamberlain Case: Nation, Law, Memory (Australian Scholarly Publishing, 2009) and Playing the Man: new approaches to masculinity (1999). 

This trilogy podcast is based on Professor Katherine Biber’s tenacious and careful research of Jimmy and Joe Governor, Australia’s last proclaimed outlaws.  She has spent the last 20 years digging into the archives to discover a number of unusual artefacts in relation to the Governor brothers, and worked in collaboration with the Governor family descendants to tell this unique and challenging story. 

Emma Lancaster – Executive Producer

Emma Lancaster is an award-winning digital storyteller that believes in the power of audio to inform, move and engage communities.

A collaborative leader and deeply connected to the Australian audio landscape, Emma has spent 7 years working in broadcast radio and digital-first audio. Her passion is investigative journalism and making complex issues accessible through nuanced and strategic storytelling.

Emma has worked on a number of innovative audio projects including ABC podcasts Trace, Unravel: Blood on the Tracks, Last Seen Katoomba and Snowball. She was the Executive Producer of the History Lab podcast, making Seasons 1, 3 and 4 and was awarded for producing the Best Lockdown Podcast by the Australian Podcast Awards for her work on The New Social Contract in 2020. 

Emma is the founding Executive Producer of Impact Studios, an audio production house embedded in the University of Technology Sydney and leads The Last Outlaws podcast team.

Kaitlyn Sawrey – Host, Writer and Senior Producer

Kaitlyn Sawrey is an award-winning independent podcast producer and host, living on unceded Gubbi Gubbi country in Australia. Previously she was the Senior Producer of Science Vs for Gimlet Media and Spotify. After helping commission and shape the first season of Science Vs for the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, SV moved to Gimlet Media in Brooklyn, NYC and quickly climbed to the top of the US iTunes podcast charts.

Science Vs has won multiple awards for Kaitlyn’s fact-based fiction episode PANDEMIC!!! published just months before COVID-19 hit the headlines.

Kaitlyn was the founding producer for the first iteration of the ABC’s podcast division, which then expanded to become ABC Audio Studios.

Kaitlyn’s work has been featured on ABC Local Radio, Radio Australia, Radio National, NewsRadio, triple j magazine and ABC24.


Francisco Lopez – Writer, Senior Producer, Composer and Sound Engineer

Francisco Lopez is a producer, and writer, who has written and produced episodes for Spotify, the ABC, and the University of Technology Sydney.

He also lives a double life as an audio engineer and musician who has worked for some of the biggest music studios in New York, as well as Audible Studios.

He has composed original score and sound design for Radio National, Pineapple Street Media, and Gimlet. 


Allison Chan – Producer and Researcher

Allison is an audio project manager and producer at The Guardian. She has produced multiple documentaries at ABC RN and her work at UTS Impact Studios won a gold award at the Australian Podcast Awards.

Allison was the executive producer of storytelling show All The Best at FBi Radio, and has taught podcasting at Western Sydney University and the University of Sydney. She was also a podcast producer at Ghost Island Media in Taiwan. 


Professor Daryle Rigney – Cultural Consultant

Professor Daryle Rigney is a citizen of the Ngarrindjeri Nation and is an experienced educator, leader and researcher with more than 30 years in the higher education sector. 

Daryle teaches in the EMBA Nation Building study path and is currently the director of the Indigenous Nations and Collaborative Futures Research hub, at the Jumbunna Institute for Indigenous Education and Research at UTS. 


Dr Lyndon Ormond-Parker – Cultural Consultant

Dr Lyndon Ormond-Parker was born in Darwin and is of Alyawarra decent, from the Barkly tablelands region of the Northern Territory.

He has been involved in advocacy, policy development, research and negotiations at the local, national and international level.

A cultural heritage expert with significant experience in the fields of repatriation, archives, information technologies, materials conservation, heritage and policy, Ormond-Parker has held numerous positions across universities, organisations, government committees and boards.

He is currently an Honorary Senior Lecturer at the Centre for Heritage and Museum Studies at the Australian National Unviersity.



Ben Vozzo – Digital Communications Manager

Ben Vozzo has been working in digital communications for eight years across many global and national organisations.

Ben began his career at Earth Hour Global in 2012, working as the global digital communications manager with the WWF campaign in both Sydney and Singapore.

In 2017, Ben joined Humane Society International  as the Communications Coordinator for its Australian office and lead the media outreach for its animal welfare and conservation campaigns, including the Shark Champions campaign for shark and ray conservation in Australia.

Ben enjoys marketing and developing digital communications for Impact Studios podcasts to bring to life academic research at UTS.

Belinda Lopez – Editorial Advisor

Belinda Lopez is a writer, documentary audio maker and researcher fascinated by the stories we tell each other. That covers a whole lot of things: anthropology, history, human rights, literature and journalism.

She was shortlisted for the 2020 Australian/Vogel’s Literary Award, the Australian Human Rights Awards and Amnesty Media Awards, and awarded prizes from the United Nations and New York Festivals.

Her poetry, essays and stories have been published and broadcast in Australia and internationally.

Previously, she was a producer on the international human rights documentary program The State We’re In, EP and host of Australian community storytelling show All the Best and co-founder of ABC’s This is About podcast. She has also served as an editorial advisor on award-winning and nominated film and audio documentaries.



Jake Duczynski – Digital animation and artwork from Studio Gilay

Jake is a director, animator, writer and lecturer based in Gadigal country, Australia. 

A proud Indigenous man, with Gomeroi and Mandandanji descent, Jake’s work is an exploration of Indigenous culture through animation, working to establish cultural collaboration, facilitate preservation and visualise unseen, unheard stories.



Martin Peralta – Sound Engineer

An audio engineer, digital producer and sound designer, over the years Martin has worked on many award winning projects including Walkley winning podcast series for ABC Trace and Unravel, Audible’s Nut Jobs and Webby and SXSW award winning My Grandmother’s Lingo.

He has also worked on other podcasts for Gimlet Media, Somethin’ Else, SCA, Whooshkaa and Audible Australia.

Martin’s work also extends out to music and sound/digital immersive projects for UTS, Black Box and Underbelly Arts.